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[[User:Edmiao|Edmiao]] my understanding is that a dyson sphere is a metal hollow sphere with a star in the middle of it.  So one in our galaxy would have to be at the ''radius'' of the earth or mars or possilby larger.  That is to say the radius of the earth or mars orbit, not the radius of the planet itself.  Now, if you had a much colder and less dense star, maybe you could make it smaller, i don't know the details of what the emissions from a dwarf star are, is it hotter or less hot than the sun?  i do know that your mom is big enough to take the emissions from any star, although she prefers dwarf emissions.
 
[[User:Edmiao|Edmiao]] my understanding is that a dyson sphere is a metal hollow sphere with a star in the middle of it.  So one in our galaxy would have to be at the ''radius'' of the earth or mars or possilby larger.  That is to say the radius of the earth or mars orbit, not the radius of the planet itself.  Now, if you had a much colder and less dense star, maybe you could make it smaller, i don't know the details of what the emissions from a dwarf star are, is it hotter or less hot than the sun?  i do know that your mom is big enough to take the emissions from any star, although she prefers dwarf emissions.
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--[[User:Matts|Matts]] 18:48, 26 February 2009 (MST)Speaking of emissions, your mom sure likes my nocturnal ones.
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[[User:Edmiao|Edmiao]] that's interesting.  most boys stop having nocturnal emissions in their early teens.
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JASON: Matt is pretty much a boy, so it makes perfect sense.  If he was meaning at the orbit of Mars, that works.  Really, a Dyson sphere surrounding a dwarf would not be worth the time it takes to build it.  The reason you would construct a sphere of this nature is to capture ALL of the emitted energy of the star.  Early in the life of a star the heavier metals can produce tremendous energy burning these complex nuclei, and this energy causes some expansive force.  Stars begin to collapse when their weight causes an inward force which is greater than the electromagnetic force which keeps electrons from being near one another.  This is the first stage.  It continues if the star after its initial collapse has radius greater than about 1.4x of our sun (Schwarzschild Radius).  If the star meets this limit and continues to collapse It now must contend with the weak nuclear force which is much stronger than EM.  I dont remember the constant, but its called Chandrasekhar's Limit.  When a star meets this it becomes a neutron star (Neutronium=1,400,000,000,000,000 G/CM3).  The most massive stars can continue to collapse if the combination of their mass and the momentum from their continued collapse can overcome the strong nuclear force.  Then you have a black hole (escape velocity exceeds the speed of light).  Once a star begins to collapse its lifespan is pretty much near its end.  They do attempt to save themselves by nova and supernova explosions, which would yield extreme amounts of energy, but would probably be fatal to those living inside the sphere.
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This is the first time I have been able to use this knowledge since high school.  I used to want to be a cosmologist.
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Yay!
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[[User:Edmiao|Edmiao]] my hero!
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'''GABE:'''  Well also suns don't put out unlimited energy, which makes their whole plan to save the universe kinda insane.  Plus I don't really care, its just a sci-fi game.
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ED: god damn it!  make me a real dyson sphere!  combat entropy!
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'''GABE:''' NO!  And now just to spite you, I'm making my dyson sphere a cube, and it eats other suns to power its own sun, with underlighting, and it has 80 billion laser cannons on it that all have the power of 10 suns, and it a special force field that deflects math, now what?
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(But all that aside a bigger one is actually better for the purposes of the game.  The translations for this game are awful.)
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[[User:Edmiao|Edmiao]] oooo  a force field that deflects math!  that's my next supers character, he has force fields that deflect reason.  that was a joke, but it might actually be fun.
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'''GABE:''' Yes I'm this bored.  I remember I was coming up with Captin Anger.  He had a can affect other dimensions with his punch, but only a dimension where right and wrong was decided, letting him do what he wanted.
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Dude make a dispell math, always on with an area of effect around yourself!  I'm just trying to imagen how it actually plays out... 2+2= IMPOSSIBLE
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--[[User:Gdaze|Gdaze]] 17:43, 5 March 2009 (MST) So besides Ed's humoring of me by saying this is interesting, what does everyone else think?  This is of course for down da line.  If we did any of these I think either escaping from the Dyson Sphere (with underlighting and math deflecting shield) or the Therian technology acquisition unit would be the more interesting games to play.  I like the escape one because it has such a direct goal but allows each character to have side quests and what not as well. 
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Like would you all be interested in this?  Yes, no, maybe?  I dunno how much ye'll enjoyed Werewolf, first time GMing with such an RP intensive group (I like combat, and we would be using WH40K rp rules).  But it was fun to do.  One thing about this if we did the escape one, is that it would have nobody in charge of the PCs, so they'd be totally free to do as they please.

Latest revision as of 18:43, 5 March 2009

ED: you just want to use those space gorilla figures you got. sounds interesting, but please, god, no smugglers and no archaeologists.

GABE: Damn skippy I want to use space gorilla figures! No but really I find the universe pretty open ended but not like over whelmingly large.

Haha, you'll notice for smuggler I did put "ugh..."!

JASON: Shouldnt a Dyson sphere be much larger than Mars? They are built around a star, so they would be utterly massive.

GABE: Yeah it might be bigger, just going off what I remember. The world has fairly poor writing. I think its like a dwarf star or something...

Edmiao my understanding is that a dyson sphere is a metal hollow sphere with a star in the middle of it. So one in our galaxy would have to be at the radius of the earth or mars or possilby larger. That is to say the radius of the earth or mars orbit, not the radius of the planet itself. Now, if you had a much colder and less dense star, maybe you could make it smaller, i don't know the details of what the emissions from a dwarf star are, is it hotter or less hot than the sun? i do know that your mom is big enough to take the emissions from any star, although she prefers dwarf emissions.

--Matts 18:48, 26 February 2009 (MST)Speaking of emissions, your mom sure likes my nocturnal ones.

Edmiao that's interesting. most boys stop having nocturnal emissions in their early teens.

JASON: Matt is pretty much a boy, so it makes perfect sense. If he was meaning at the orbit of Mars, that works. Really, a Dyson sphere surrounding a dwarf would not be worth the time it takes to build it. The reason you would construct a sphere of this nature is to capture ALL of the emitted energy of the star. Early in the life of a star the heavier metals can produce tremendous energy burning these complex nuclei, and this energy causes some expansive force. Stars begin to collapse when their weight causes an inward force which is greater than the electromagnetic force which keeps electrons from being near one another. This is the first stage. It continues if the star after its initial collapse has radius greater than about 1.4x of our sun (Schwarzschild Radius). If the star meets this limit and continues to collapse It now must contend with the weak nuclear force which is much stronger than EM. I dont remember the constant, but its called Chandrasekhar's Limit. When a star meets this it becomes a neutron star (Neutronium=1,400,000,000,000,000 G/CM3). The most massive stars can continue to collapse if the combination of their mass and the momentum from their continued collapse can overcome the strong nuclear force. Then you have a black hole (escape velocity exceeds the speed of light). Once a star begins to collapse its lifespan is pretty much near its end. They do attempt to save themselves by nova and supernova explosions, which would yield extreme amounts of energy, but would probably be fatal to those living inside the sphere.

This is the first time I have been able to use this knowledge since high school. I used to want to be a cosmologist.

Yay!

Edmiao my hero!

GABE: Well also suns don't put out unlimited energy, which makes their whole plan to save the universe kinda insane. Plus I don't really care, its just a sci-fi game.

ED: god damn it! make me a real dyson sphere! combat entropy!

GABE: NO! And now just to spite you, I'm making my dyson sphere a cube, and it eats other suns to power its own sun, with underlighting, and it has 80 billion laser cannons on it that all have the power of 10 suns, and it a special force field that deflects math, now what?

(But all that aside a bigger one is actually better for the purposes of the game. The translations for this game are awful.)

Edmiao oooo a force field that deflects math! that's my next supers character, he has force fields that deflect reason. that was a joke, but it might actually be fun.

GABE: Yes I'm this bored. I remember I was coming up with Captin Anger. He had a can affect other dimensions with his punch, but only a dimension where right and wrong was decided, letting him do what he wanted.

Dude make a dispell math, always on with an area of effect around yourself! I'm just trying to imagen how it actually plays out... 2+2= IMPOSSIBLE


--Gdaze 17:43, 5 March 2009 (MST) So besides Ed's humoring of me by saying this is interesting, what does everyone else think? This is of course for down da line. If we did any of these I think either escaping from the Dyson Sphere (with underlighting and math deflecting shield) or the Therian technology acquisition unit would be the more interesting games to play. I like the escape one because it has such a direct goal but allows each character to have side quests and what not as well.

Like would you all be interested in this? Yes, no, maybe? I dunno how much ye'll enjoyed Werewolf, first time GMing with such an RP intensive group (I like combat, and we would be using WH40K rp rules). But it was fun to do. One thing about this if we did the escape one, is that it would have nobody in charge of the PCs, so they'd be totally free to do as they please.