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| − | After a discussion of all the GMs (who's bases belong to us) we decided that the way to continue with a second game alongside exemplars would be to throw out, as we did before, a choice of Genres, let everybody vote, and see what comes out. When a Genre has been selected, anybody who has an idea for a game they'd like to GM in that genre can put together a SHORT synopsis (a paragraph or two) of the game they want to run: all the ideas will go up on the votin' page and then everybody will get to rank the specific game ideas. Whichever game idea gets the most votes is what we do, and whoever proposed that idea is the GM for the second game with which we move forward after the Jin Dynasty campaign ends.
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| − | Rank these in your preferred order, 1-7 (1 being the "best", and 7 the worst). When everyone (including both Nate AND Gabe) has voted, we'll add up the points. If one wins clearly (ie, by more than 7 points), we'll just go forward with that one: otherwise We'll have as many run-offs as necessary to winnow it down to one.
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| − | So, the Genres:
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| − | ==Post Apocalypse==
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| − | #1 Continue PA: Not really a genre, and I can't remember how the discussion went for this. This option would mean that I would wrap up, in an expedient fashion, the events currently in progress, and the group would move onto a PA campaign that Jason has been designing: one focused more on the necessities of survival, on scrounging, and on the everyday challenges of living in a post apocalyptic world. This game would run in parallel with exemplars after Jin.
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| − | --[[User:BenofZongo|BenofZongo]] 15:07, 3 February 2007 (MST)rank 5<br>
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| − | --[[User:Jason|Jason]] 17:53, 3 February 2007 (MST)Rank 7 (i do want to get to this eventually, however, with or without the same characters)<br>
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| − | --[[User:Matts|Matts]] 19:03, 3 February 2007 (MST)rank 5<br>
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| − | --[[User:Edmiao|Edmiao]] 13:23, 4 February 2007 (MST) rank 5<br>
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| − | --[[User:Gdaze|Gdaze]] Rank 2<br>
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| − | --[[User:Dieterthebold|Dieter the Bold]] 13:48, 8 February 2007 (MST) Rank 2. I'm enjoying this campaign, although I do want the band back together.
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| − | ==Far Future==
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| − | #2 Far-Future: this genre includes space opera, space fantasy, space marines, space hulk, rogue trader, or any other ultra-high-tech based game
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| − | --[[User:BenofZongo|BenofZongo]] 15:07, 3 February 2007 (MST)rank 1<br>
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| − | --[[User:Jason|Jason]] 17:53, 3 February 2007 (MST)Rank 4<br>
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| − | --[[User:Matts|Matts]] 18:59, 3 February 2007 (MST)Rank 1<br>
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| − | --[[User:Edmiao|Edmiao]] 13:23, 4 February 2007 (MST) rank 6<br>
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| − | --[[User:Gdaze|Gdaze]] Rank 1<br>
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| − | --[[User:Dieterthebold|Dieter the Bold]] 13:46, 8 February 2007 (MST) Rank 1. I'd like a Firefly-ish kinda' setting. I.e., space travel but low tech.
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| − | ==Modern==
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| − | #3 Modern or Near-Future: This includes realistic modern world settings, cyberpunk, drug lord settings, and beating up the jason bessonette.
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| − | --[[User:BenofZongo|BenofZongo]] 15:07, 3 February 2007 (MST)rank 6<br>
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| − | --[[User:Jason|Jason]] 17:53, 3 February 2007 (MST)Rank 5<br>
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| − | --[[User:Matts|Matts]] 19:00, 3 February 2007 (MST)Rank 2<br>
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| − | --[[User:Edmiao|Edmiao]] 13:23, 4 February 2007 (MST) rank 7<br>
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| − | --[[User:Gdaze|Gdaze]] Rank 4<br>
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| − | --[[User:Dieterthebold|Dieter the Bold]] 13:55, 8 February 2007 (MST) Rank 7. Exemplars is already modern day (albeit slightly skewed). I'm not all that interested in doing today.
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| − | ==Historical==
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| − | #4 Historical: Settings based on actual time periods in human history: rennaisance, the wild west, roman, caveman, whatever.
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| − | --[[User:BenofZongo|BenofZongo]] 15:07, 3 February 2007 (MST)rank 7<br>
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| − | --[[User:Jason|Jason]] 17:53, 3 February 2007 (MST)Rank 1<br>
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| − | --[[User:Matts|Matts]] 19:01, 3 February 2007 (MST)Rank 3 given that it's fucked up a bit, ie Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell<br>
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| − | --[[User:Edmiao|Edmiao]] 13:23, 4 February 2007 (MST)rank 4<br>
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| − | --[[User:Gdaze|Gdaze]] Rank 7<br>
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| − | --[[User:Dieterthebold|Dieter the Bold]] 13:52, 8 February 2007 (MST) Rank 5. I enjoys me some History Channel.
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| − | ==Fantasy==
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| − | #5 Fantasy: A historical setting including magic, mythical creatures, etc. This would also include games like the Iliadic game (if you want to make an argument that it should fall into "historical" go ahead, but I think it fits here better)
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| − | --[[User:BenofZongo|BenofZongo]] 15:07, 3 February 2007 (MST)rank 2<br>
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| − | --[[User:Jason|Jason]] 17:53, 3 February 2007 (MST)Rank 6<br>
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| − | --[[User:Matts|Matts]] 19:02, 3 February 2007 (MST)Rank ?????<br>
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| − | --[[User:Edmiao|Edmiao]] 13:23, 4 February 2007 (MST) rank 2 I'm indecisive so i gave three rank 2's instead of a 1, 2, and 3<br>
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| − | --[[User:Gdaze|Gdaze]] Rank 5<br>
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| − | --[[User:Dieterthebold|Dieter the Bold]] 13:49, 8 February 2007 (MST) Rank 3. I demand more gnome sex.
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| − | ==Supernatural==
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| − | #6 Supernatural: A game focused on things like vampires, werewolves, shub-niggoroth, or anything else sort of world-of-darkness-y.
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| − | --[[User:BenofZongo|BenofZongo]] 15:07, 3 February 2007 (MST)rank 4<br>
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| − | --[[User:Jason|Jason]] 17:53, 3 February 2007 (MST)Rank 2<br>
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| − | --[[User:Matts|Matts]] 19:02, 3 February 2007 (MST)Rank 6<br>
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| − | --[[User:Edmiao|Edmiao]] 13:23, 4 February 2007 (MST) rank 2<br>
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| − | --[[User:Gdaze|Gdaze]] Rank 3<br>
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| − | --[[User:Dieterthebold|Dieter the Bold]] 13:51, 8 February 2007 (MST) Rank 4. All your sanity is belong to the Old Ones!!!
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| − | ==Genre Mish-Mash==
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| − | #7 Genre Mish-Mash: A catchall for oddball games or unusual combinations: Steampunk, for instance (drawing a blank on other examples right now).
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| − | --[[User:BenofZongo|BenofZongo]] 15:07, 3 February 2007 (MST) rank 3<br>
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| − | --[[User:Jason|Jason]] 17:53, 3 February 2007 (MST)Rank 3<br>
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| − | --[[User:Matts|Matts]] 19:02, 3 February 2007 (MST)Rank ????<br>
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| − | --[[User:Edmiao|Edmiao]] 13:23, 4 February 2007 (MST) rank 2<br>
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| − | --[[User:Gdaze|Gdaze]] Rank 6<br>
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| − | --[[User:Dieterthebold|Dieter the Bold]] 13:54, 8 February 2007 (MST) Rank 6. I vote an anime romance story. Gabe is the shy young girl who has a crush on the high school soccer hero Matt. But what's this, Jason is secretly in love with Matt, too, hoping for some hot boy-on-boy loving!?! And Ed's secretly an alien from outerspace trying to win Gabe's heart. Oh what will our hero(ines) do??
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| − | --[[User:Jason|Jason]] 14:13, 8 February 2007 (MST)^^^^^^This is the best idea EVAR. I vote for it and nothing else.
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| − | =Almost Results Or Something=
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| − | With only Nate left to vote the pendulum has swung thusly (with adjustment made for Matts inability to count to 7):
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| − | Post Apocalypse: 26 <br>
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| − | Far Future: 14<br>
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| − | Modern: 31<br>
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| − | Historical: 27<br>
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| − | Fantasy: 23.5<br>
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| − | Supernatural: 21<br>
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| − | Genre Mish-Mash: 25.5<br>
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| − | Lowest score wins, so unless Nate throws a monkeywrench into the plans Far Future will be the choice. But, if Nate ranks Supernatural ahead of FF, then we should have a runoff (it wont meet the 7 margin of victory ordained by Pope Benthedick). Actually, for purposes of interest I propose we all submit any ideas we have that fit either genre, then choose the one people like the best.
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| − | --[[User:Gdaze|Gdaze]]-- Sounds good to me.
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| − | --[[User:BenofZongo|BenofZongo]] 18:12, 8 February 2007 (MST)hold your horses, old man Harrison. We'll do the votin' fer this one the same way as before: everyone puts in their ideas that wants to by this Sunday, then we vote (rank 1-X, one being the best). once again, a differential of 7 is needed for clear victory. If you don't plan on putting up any proposals and know that, or if you have put up all the proposals you plan to submit, post it here under the "proposals" section. If everyone (except nate, who we can imagine to be as impassive and immovable as a stone, as long as he gets to blow some shit up) puts up that they have either submitted all their proposals, or that they are not going to submit any, then we can start the voting whenever that happens. Sound good?
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| − | --[[User:Gdaze|Gdaze]]-- Jason since your going to be running supers, will you be able to run both space and supers? I know that planning out adventures takes a lot of your time (as it should be since your a good GM, actually I've liked all the GMs we've had, but anyway!). I just don't want you to load yourself down.
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| − | --[[User:Jason|Jason]] 17:53, 8 February 2007 (MST)He said load. Actually, I dont know. I have considered running another game with a different group, so I dont know how different that would be. The obvious difference is I wouldnt get to play. Besides that, Im not sure. Maybe Im just making these ideas hoping someone will steal them as their own and run it. Maybe Im crazy. Or, maybe Im old man Harrison who runs the broken down carnival. Zoinks!
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| − | --[[User:Edmiao|Edmiao]] 23:51, 8 February 2007 (MST) Jason, you should decide if you are willing to gm both games, and what happens if one of your proposals wins. And to other GMs, if Jason makes the best proposal would other GMs be interested in running it?. Actually, I might suggest that as GM abscenses are easily accomodated by having two games running with two different GMs thus maybe Jason should not be both GMs. I might suggest it, but would not because Jason has never missed a session, so that is silly.
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| − | =Proposals=
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| − | --[[User:Matts|Matts]] 19:00, 8 February 2007 (MST)I'm Zen like Ben which means I be finizashed, what it do<br>
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| − | for those of you who don't "speak jive", he's saying he also has submitted all his proposals
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| − | --[[User:BenofZongo|BenofZongo]] 18:12, 8 February 2007 (MST)I have submitted all my proposals<br>
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| − | --[[User:Matts|Matts]] 23:55, 8 February 2007 (MST)Oh wait, one more: [[Everybody Beat Up the Jason Bessonette]]
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| − | --[[User:Edmiao|Edmiao]] 00:07, 9 February 2007 (MST) I'll rank EBUtJB #1, much more appealing than the #3 Dealy.
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| − | --[[User:BenofZongo|BenofZongo]] 09:11, 9 February 2007 (MST)It's been pointed out that there is a lot of similarity between the far future idea put forth by Jason and Myself. Actually, there is a lot of similarity between all the far future ideas: As Jason pointed out, most of our ideas on this stuff came from a couple of conversations, so most of the differences are in minor details rather than overarching ideas. As such, I'd like to add one more "category" here besides "submitted all proposals" and "not submitting jack", namely the "I don't want to GM this, but I'd like to see a game based on X idea": put the proposal in whatever category fits it: if it wins somebody can volunteer to GM it.
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| − | --[[User:Edmiao|Edmiao]] 09:28, 9 February 2007 (MST) sounds like Matt's Rogue Traders, Jason's Indiana Jones and Ben's idea all fall in the same category?
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| − | --[[User:BenofZongo|BenofZongo]] 09:48, 9 February 2007 (MST)yes...so far the only preference as far as far future goes indicated that that is the style of game people wanted, so each of us came up with our take on it. If you want a different style of far future game, whether you want to GM it or not, put it up under the far-future section. Otherwise, rank them randomly, rank them alphabetically, or rank them based on how many times the GM did Gabe's mom last week, it doesn't matter. They're all up there because, I assume, each Jason, Matt, and I are willing/interested in GMing a game of this style. I don't think it's a good idea to "pool" this idea into one and then, if it's picked, say "ok, who's gonna GM": I think we can just get that out of the way now.
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| − | --[[User:Matts|Matts]] 09:54, 9 February 2007 (MST)Yeah, our ideas are all pretty similar, and you could imagine, almost interchangeable. For instance, if you want a GM with the least in terms of gabe's mom-transmitted diseases, but you want to play space marines or rogue trader, you'd probably have to ask Gay Jason to GM. On the other hand, if you wanted a handsome, yet tragically flawed GM, and wanted to play indiana jones in space, I'd do it with no qualms.
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| − | Just a reminder that a.) We're not voting yet and b.) all the games are lumped together for ranking purposes: that means you don't rank 1-x for far future and 1-x for supernatural, rather you rank 1-x for all the games proposed together. Yes I'm a fucking rule-nazi. Yes, I am immune to bullets. Yes I will kill you just because you are ugly. That means that "handsome" GM up there better watch the fuck out.
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| − | --[[User:Matts|Matts]] 19:13, 9 February 2007 (MST)Didn't you get the memo? Being handsome makes you invincible! I mean Christopher Reeve, right?
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| − | --[[User:Matts|Matts]] 14:56, 8 February 2007 (MST)I've got two far-future proposals, both 40k related:<br>
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| − | [[space marines of the 41st millenium]]<br>
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| − | [[Rogue traders of the 41st millenium]]
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| − | As an aside, do you think that the people in the 40k universe realize that their calendar was based on Jesus? Or was it?
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| − | --[[User:Jason|Jason]] 15:00, 8 February 2007 (MST)Here was the one I had done so far:<br>
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| − | --[[User:BenofZongo|BenofZongo]] 17:42, 8 February 2007 (MST)Click on my name and look at option #1 for my far future dealy<br>
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| − | --[[User:Dieterthebold|Dieter the Bold]] 13:30, 9 February 2007 (MST) I think I'll let WarHammer sit for a while, so my vote's against the 41st millenium bunch, although it's kinda' a weak vote against. I'm excited about all the Far Future stuff, but for our purposes here, I'd prefer Ben's #1 option with a dash of Jason flava'. Yes travel is slow, dangerous and tough, but there's also some giant secret/conspiracy in addition to the desperate lack of high tech components. Sorta' like archeology, except that's not the up-front focus. It really is some big secret that is potentially earth-shatteringly huge, but it's not at all obvious or on anyone's radar, and the struggle for survival is tough enough that there aren't any existent organizations that have the resources to pursue it 100%.
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| − | --[[User:Matts|Matts]] 23:44, 11 February 2007 (MST)I know I said I was done (in so many words), but I just got inspired by thinking about Firefly again, and reading the [[Dogs in the Vineyard]] system. So count me in for one more proposal: [[Non-Mormon Space Wanderers]].
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| − | ==Supernatural==
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| − | Since this was in second place, we should put any ideas we have here as well.
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| − | [[Hunters]]
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| − | --[[User:BenofZongo|BenofZongo]] 17:43, 8 February 2007 (MST)click on my name and look at option #3 for my supernatural dealy (I don't even want to hear "dealy" jokes, cause I thought of them ALL already, then promptly forgot them all)
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| − | --[[User:Jason|Jason]] 17:51, 8 February 2007 (MST)My vote goes for this #3 dealy (Plaza? Who exactly gets shot in the head here?).<br>
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| − | --[[User:Dieterthebold|Dieter the Bold]] 13:34, 9 February 2007 (MST) I really like both [[Hunters]] and Ben's #3 dealy, but I'll have to go with Ben's on this one. It's closer to High Fantasy, which I'm also really interested in.
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