Current events
This page is for discussion of stuff related to the game coming up this week, no matter when that actually is. For instance, we can all assume Nate isnt coming for some lame reason and that Ed is sick of pizza and is bringing teriyaki or some other crap. They can post something here if that happens to be untrue.
Contents
Location
Date...........game.........Location
1/5/07......PA............BEN'S
1/12/07......WHFRP............Jason's
1/19/07......WHFRP............Bens
1/26/07......WHFRP..........Jason's
2/2/07.......Jin Dynasty......Ben's
2/9/07.......Jin Dynasty......Gabe's Bungalow
2/16/07......Jin Dynasty.........Jason's
2/23/07......Nephron One Shot..........ben's
3/2/07.......Toonball and random shit......Ben's
3/9/07.......Jin Dynasty......Gabe's Bungalow
3/16/07......Jin Dynasty......Gabe's house of gaming
3/23/07......Jin Dynasty......Matt's House of Tyranny
3/30/07......Exemplars........Gabe's
4/6/07.......Gemini Character Creation...Ben's Condo
4/13/07......Gemini........Gabe's
4/20/07......week off......nowhere in particular
4/27/07......Gemini.......ben's house
5/04/07......Gemini.......Gabe's
5/11/07......Gemini.......Ben's
5/18/07......Gemini.......Gabe's
5/25/07......Gemini.......Ben's
6/01/07......Gemini.......Gabe's
6/08/07..... CoC one shot.......Dieter's
6/15/17......Space Marines One shot........Dieter's
6/22/07......Gemini.......Jeremy's
6/29/07......Gemini.......Gabe's hut
7/6/07.......Gemini....Ben's house
7/13/07......Gemini....Gabe's
7/20/07......Gemini....Gabe's again!
7/27/07......Gemini....GABES again again
8/03/07......Entertain yourself!
8/10/07......WHFRP....Gabe's
8/17/07......Gemini....Ben and Dieter's wonderful gaming wasteland
--Dieter the Bold 19:04, 2 August 2007 (MST) It's official. Ben's Condo has just been upgraded to Ben & Dieter's Gaming Wunderhaus. More details to come.
--Matts 22:07, 2 August 2007 (MST)Classic!
Gabe- Haha I was just about to ask if we were gonna game there...
Attendance and Food preference
8/17/07
--Edmiao 08:59, 16 August 2007 (MST) present; no pizza.
--Dieter the Bold 09:19, 16 August 2007 (MST) Present; pizza plz. K thx bye.
--BenofZongo 17:10, 16 August 2007 (MST)present, obviously. Also, Brandon will be joining us, as Gracchus, most likely.
Gabe -- Should sign in but lazy... Present. No 'za for me.
Ranting and raving or other random comments
HOLY SHIT! I've had WAAAY too much suger, I'm like ZIIIIIIOOOOOONG off the wall, why did I make a boner sound? Ah crap, way way way too on a suger high. Anyone wanna wresle a bear? YAY!
-This insane message brought to you from Gabe.
--Justin 15:49, 15 August 2007 (MST) Out of all of your wonderfull traits, Gabe, I think your best one is your fucked up sense of humor. I lol'd.
--Gdaze 15:58, 15 August 2007 (MST) Sweet, I miss your powerful arms wrapped around my slender frame! But no really, sorry I couldn't come out Sunday. Anyway you can move Spokane to Kirkland or something? Maybe just wipe out some crappy city near here, like Kent? If you come from Kent and read this... I'm sorry... sorry that you come from Kent.
Other Nongaming Events
Dune BITCHES!!!!!
My plan is to have a megaDune marathon some weekend day.
Various links: [1]
[2]
http://www.sorvan.com/games/dune/dune.html]
The Next Step in Exemplars
The Next Step in Gemini
Also See Ship's Log for past conversations.
Also See Talk:Gemini
Gloval -- This message is only to Aedil "Give me one reason why I should not boot you off my crew? You attacked our mechanic and broke his finger. What kind of a body guard are you? You have until we get back from this mission, otherwise, you will have to leave. (Sorry gents, but I gotta be in character)
Aedil -- I address the Captain and the entire crew. First, I do not consider myself a body guard. I am an archaeologist first and foremost and an explorer of the Norse people. I have skills in combat that are sometimes useful.
Let us discuss the primary matter at hand. Orentes brought a bomb, A BOMB! to a meeting of truce. What could possibly be more underhanded and dishonest? I saw him pull out that detinator when the guard opened the box. And we all saw his finger begin to depress the button. In that moment, I felt the presence of Tyr, I felt his light that had guided my path to that very room and I felt the strength which he has given to me all my life. As Orentes began to press that button, I felt the thread of my destiny begin to fray. I felt Tyr's hand leave my side as he stayed the guard from tampering with the bomb and as he stayed Orentes' finger on the trigger. And then the strength of Tyr departed. I feel it still as a piece of the spiritual light that guides my destiny has gone forever from my life. I know this abscence, as it happened once before when Freyja brought me water in the desert on Andromache 3. I was near death at the time and she showed me a fresh spring and then her light left me forevermore. So it is that Tyr's light has faded from my sight. This cannot be undone.
Orentes was a hairs breath from killing us all for what? Because he was too cowardly to enter a peace session without an "ace" up his sleve? Captain, how can you tolerate such cowardly dishonesty and disregard for your life and the life of your crew. The Golden Fleece would have been left without a psychonavigator and without a captain had not Tyr stayed Orentes twitchy finger. Captain Gloval can you honestly say that you did not feel the light of destiny slipping from your grasp in that moment? Ules, did you not feel your thread in the tapestry of fate partially unwind? You will truly need the powers of the Norns to repair it. As I said, I am not afraid to risk my life for worthy cause, but I will not tolerate my brothers gambling with my life for naught, for I have yet much to do in the service of the gods.
As I confronted Orentes about this blatant disregard, he had the nerve to insult me! Such disrespect for life and friendship is INTOLLERABLE! Like a little brother, I had to teach him a lesson. You do not say to a child, "oh, you almost killed all your friends, please try not to do that again". The child must be disciplined. The gods willing, that broken finger will mend poorly and will nag him every time he considers a cowardly or dishonorable act.
Captain, you are even more incompetent than the rest of us. You must take full responsibility for the actions of your crew; we act under your authority. You claim to run a tight ship, yet you allowed Orentes to bring a bomb to a peace offering! A BOMB! You turn a blind eye to his cowardice and foolhardyness. You allowed him to negotiate a deal that turned out to be catastrophe for the ship. He blindly accepted the cargo uncaring of the obvious danger it posed to the ship and then prevented me from scanning it in the pursuit of the truth. I admit that I was also in error breaking the box open, but Orentes did not lift a finger to stop me either. I broke it open in front of him in his room and he ignored me. What other options did I have to find out what danger Orentes had put us all in? This folly also lies in your lap. You failed to broker a middle ground between us, Captain. That is your duty as ruler. The only thing I have seen you do as a chief lately is to denegrate the crew and destroy our morale. What have you done that makes you worthy of leadership? I think that we all have much to improve upon, and I feel in my heart that together we can help to better each other.
I am no smuggler of illegal goods. I appologize, but when I joined the crew, I was unaware that Captain Gloval wished to run a pirate ship. If this is the destiny you all forsee for the Golden Fleece, then I fear I must leave, for I am no pirate. I believe that the Golden Fleece has a higher calling than piracy and smuggling. But perhaps my faith in kith and ship has clouded my vision. If you feel that our destinies have diverged, then I will leave the ship and find my own way again. In my prayers, I see my thread of life to coincide with the Golden Fleece and all of you, my brothers and sister. But I know I am an outsider and you all think little of my faith and my devotion to honor and righteousness. I have tried to use my influence on this ship to steer it on a path that we can all be proud of, but it seems that some of the crew has little intrest in their own pride and honor. The gods willing, I will provide to the Golden Fleece the light of Honor.
Gloval -- I'm unsure of what you are talking about... We were hired to do a mission, running catalyst. That really isn't anything bad. Then you smashed the box open. I have tolerated your extreme polar views of the world Aedil. But you now say your Gods gave you a "vision" that Orenties would blow us up? That is utter nonsense. Your visions are becoming quite dangerous.
How dare you accuse me of being a pirate. You keep telling me that we shouldn't get revenge on these people, that we should fix what we did wrong, and now you switch yet again!
Berating my crew eh? Hmph. My crew thinks they can run about doing whatever they want. It was about time you all had your eyes opened to how you were acting.
Yes I allowed him to bring a bomb. Because I fealt it was a trap. Nor do I believe in any way that he would do something so insane as blow himself up. You however, engaged in direct combat in a place of PEACE. I saw you break a fellow crew member's finger, I saw Orenties do nothing. You have always had something against him, and if you have that big of a problem with him and are going to be a continued threat to this ship, then I'm going to have to ask you to leave when we get back from this catalyst search.
Aedil -- Captain, with all respect, your memory is faulty. We were hired to do a mission: transport an unknown cargo of unknown risk for a ship that could have easily done the same run themselves. Still their explanation as to why they hired us lacks merit, as their crew appeard on Glacchus within a day of our arrival, so they could have easily run the package. The entire job was suspicious to the extreme and as one who is partially in charge of safeguarding the ship, I did what I could to assess the danger. Would that you had expressed different opinions at the time, but you left the matter up to Orentes and myself.
And what do you mean I switch again? I advocated peaceful solution to the problem, how does that make me a pirate? I say that smuggling unknown goods for pirates makes our entire ship a pirate crew. I was trying to avoid such a destiny, but if that's your plan for the Golden Fleece, I cannot stand in your way. Making peace with pirates does not make one a pirate. Waging war on pirates who are superior in number and experience is simply a fools death. I would never advocate such an end for our crew.
I saw Orentes' finger depress upon that button and nearly kill us all. I saw the guard a hairs breath from pulling out the detonator, which would have killed us all. If you did not see these things, then you are a negligent captain in time of crisis, turning a blind eye to potential death for the entire crew. If you did not feel the hand of fate upon your life in that instant then you have lost touch with your very soul.
I only have two complaints about Orentes: he is a coward and a fool. I would only act against him if he again put the lives of the crew in jeoprardy.
Gloval -- Orentes wouldn't have pushed the button, I don't see why you keep thinking that. We have smuggled high powered weapons, but I didn't hear you pipe up about that. And this mission most likely would have gone just fine if it hadn't been for you breaking the box. Perhaps this ship is not what you think, perhaps your place is not on a ship with such "sinful" people. Orentes a coward? What about when he saved the ship from those attackers? Or when he was kidnapped he took out their power and 3 guards? Or what about him brining a bomb and showing the guard that if he fucked around with us, there would be hell to pay? Although really I don't think he would... although the king snake is dangerous. I just say you switch because you say running the package makes us pirates, but not righting the wrong we did as a dilvery service by losing it. It makes no sense. Even when I sought combat with them you seemed very eerie of going into combat, once again because of your Gods' voices. They are becoming troublsome and are not providing anything of usefulness to the crew.
--Edmiao 16:43, 31 July 2007 (MST) You don't know the depths of Orentes' cowardice and deciet. He nearly pushed that button, I saw it in his eyes. Were you asleep, Ivan Gloval? And are you referring to his bravery when he exploded the space port when the ship was attacked by homeless men with sticks? It was only be the will of the gods that we are not banned Gracchus and other space ports permanently. Are you referring to when the kingsnake got himself kidnapped and nearly killed and we had to come rescue him with the Golden Fleece? He wounded some of his attackers, but remained their prisoner. It was we who rescued him in the end. Are you referring to the time when he abandoned one of the crew, myself, in a derelect ship to die of eventual suffocation? You think bringing a bomb to kill us all is bravery? only cowards kill themselves and those never go to Valhalla. A brave man confronts his enemies and fights to the death, he does not plunge the sword into his own heart.
I am not saying that Orentes has to go. I am saying that he needs to be educated. The fact that you are blind to these failings makes me question your right to lead this crew, Ivan.
I do not switch my stance. I have nothing against pirates, they are strong and take from the weak. And they usually obide by a code of honor; a code that might seem strange to the rest of you, but it is honor nevertheless. That does not mean I want to be a pirate. I was against making a run for pirates, but once the debt was promised to them we have an obligation to finish it. I was overruled in the joining of our promise to them, but since we have made that deal we must follow through. I only question whether that was wise of us, and whether we wish to continue in our career of priacy. If so, then you would be wise to hire more men at arms, maybe take pointers from the Helen and start robbing banks? If that is the fate of our proud ship, then I will take my leave of you all.
Are you arguing that the gods voices were wrong about the Helen? The situation was resolved peacefully by their grace. Had we attacked them as you advised, or delayed and allowed them to hunt us down, we would all be dead now. The gods are wise and you would be wise to heed them.
--Dieter the Bold 13:36, 15 August 2007 (MST) Orentes here with an out of the box proposal: Let's sell the 'Fleece.
Now, hear me out on this one. What do we really want a jump-capable ship for? Obviously it cuts travel time way down, but it doesn't seem like we really enjoy being merchants and traders. We don't enjoy getting involved in peoples' games and conspiracies, so what does it matter if it takes us weeks in stead of hours to get somewhere? Right now we're sitting on a powerful item that by it's very nature and our possession of it is dragging us into a whole realm of byzantine conflicts and schemes that we neither care about or want any part of. So, let's remove ourselves from this realm by divesting ourselves of the item that's putting us in this position.
Here's how I see things happening: We finish this job for Hardwire and keep our jump-console intact. We then, very carefully, telling no one outside the crew about our plans, contact either a megacorp or Hara and ask them for a meeting. We go to the meeting and explain we've decided that a jumpship is simply too much hassle for what we want to do. So, we'd like to sell it to them. All we want in return is another ship, pimped out to the gills, and maybe a few other items for our stores and a little cash. I realize neither side is going to want to part with money if they think they can just take the ship from us, but the rare chance at a confirmed jumpship will hopefully be all the incentive they need to strike a pretty sweet bargain.
Granted it's a dangerous route, but personally, at the moment, I don't see any routes that are particularly safe. And I don't see that ever changing in the future. We trade the 'Fleece in for a larger ship with top of the line armor, weapons and systems. Add in some great internal facilities like lab space and we can have ourselves a long-ranging ship good for archeological research, ship repair, or whatever else we feel like. Our main problem is a lack of focus, both in opinions and goals. By trading the 'Fleece, we get a chance to redifine ourselves and create a new focus. It's risky, but I think it's an option worth considering.
Aedil that is the most cowardly thing I have ever heard pass from your lips, which is saying a lot. To turn you back on the Golden Fleece voluntarily is to shirk your destiny and your place in history. Only a fool would sell their soul to Hel.
Ules - I don't like this idea, namely because I basically get sold with the ship, right?
Ules - Also, Aedil, cool it with the orentes hate, would you? He's made mistakes. So have you. Let's bring the rhetoric down a notch and try to be civil?
--Dieter the Bold 14:31, 15 August 2007 (MST) I realize it's not the most ideal situation for you, Ules, but I have no intention of considering you a part of the ship to be sold. You're a valuable member of the crew, perhaps the most level-headed we have, and you're a navigator and sensor expert bar none. Who knows how many psychonavigators there are out there, since you have to put them together with a jumpship, and it's not common for one of those to have an open position, but I don't see how that would stop any purchasers of the 'Fleece. If you wanted to go, you're of course free to make that choice, but I'd certainly want you on whatever new ship we had.
Gloval -- If that were the case, perhaps instead of giving up the ship we just give up jumping? Let everyone know our system has been hoplessly damaged and beyound all forms of known repair. Also, was there any idea that we start working for Aedil's hacker friend? He is quite powerful and no need to be pirates' play things if we can work under a pre-sundering mega-corp.
And my word Ules... we went through all that trouble of getting you out of slavery I'm certainly not going to throw you back in!
Aedil Ules, you are right that I am not very adept at making my points of view "nice". On Troy, we speak our minds clearly and do not hide behind veneers of civility. I'm not on Troy anymore and will try to be less blunt with my opinions. I pose this question: "Would you cut off your right arm in trade for a quiet life, or would you embrace your destiny with both hands and not let go?" Regarding Ules position, I believe that he is intimately tied to this ship and that to separate the two would be a crime against nature.
Gloval -- ... What are you talking about Aedil... as we get more and more in trouble your insanity seems to increase.... Anyway, what about working for the hacker instead of maybe going against him?
Aedil I no longer trust Root, based on what we leaned about him this morning. I think his motives may run counter to our best interest.
Gloval -- So far Root has done much for us though. Even if he has been using us, at least he knew that if he gave us any secrets we clearly wouldn't be good at keeping them. Our best interests are staying alive, and alling ourselves with this Root person might just do that. He may have set us up, but I doubt that. Aedil... you hear one thing from Root and believe it... then we hear something else... from pirates, and suddenly you forget everything Root has done for us. I would personally like to side with Root, as long as he comes a bit more clean with us. Also if he is the one who made the firewall on our computer he would be of even more use to us.
As for selling the ship and buying one with weapons... I am against it. For one, do you know how much weapons are going to cost now? With a war going on? I would much rather be a jump ship that gets contracted to run supplies of course we can't even do that anymore. Personally I don't give a shit if this guy came out of retirement to make something for these pirates. He doesn't care about our sitution I hardly care about his. Funny as he tries to appear as a marter of sorts while his employers hold us captive.
--Edmiao 11:39, 16 August 2007 (MST) Here are the reasons that I am suspicious of Root. On Casandra we found catalyst. Root identified it for us by my description and told us that holding it would be dangerous. However, now we lean that all jump ships stockpile catalyst. Immediately at our next stop, I was approached by a buyer, who turned out to be, I think her name was Tin Can, from the Helen. Since only Root knew that we had catalyst I trusted that he had sent a trustworthy purchaser to us, and I sold it to her for $100k. We now find that it is worth far more than that. Next, the Helen again contacts us to transport this same catalyst, which gets their contact on Glacchus killed by a super elite hit squad. I will speculate that it may have been Root's primary objective to expose this guy on Glacchus, what was his name, something -wire. Now we find out that Root is in command of Fenris, the elite black ops squad for cerebrus. I think Root used us to out this -wire fellow so he could assassinate him. This is somewhat distasteful if true, and I suggest caution in further dealings with Root.
Gloval -- Oh I agree with you on the caution part. But some parts of this plan seem so speific... like how would Root know the Helen would come to us? I think we should not dismiss the Helen either... Perhaps they do have a mole? Just because they all seem chummy is no reason someone isn't secretly working for Hara or Root. Something I'm unsure of is WHY Root would want someone who works on Cataylyst killed... that part makes no sense.
I say we give Root some choice information... basically coming out and saying "Alright Root, we are tired of being play pieces, how can we move up the food chain?" Something like that. Find out why he is doing what he is doing. I'm not about to be the Helen's little jump toy and be the laughing stock of every other jump ship in the system.
Aedil Yes, you are right. I wonder if the Helen coming to us was a strange coincidence of fate or as you say, they may have a traitor on board. I also do not understand why he would want this Livewire killed. I agree, it deserves further thought.
